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Thursday, 08 May 2008
Permission and action
Parents give children permissions when they are growing up. When a permission is given the child gets the message that it is OK or they are permitted to do such behaviours.
There are 4 different levels of permission giving that parents can do to children
1. Doing nothing
2. Verbal permission giving
3. Directly observing the parents doing the behaviour
4. Parents doing the behaviour in the relationship with the child

Take the behaviour of giving encouragement or positive strokes.
1. The parents never give encouragement or make statements to the child about giving encouragement to others. A child from this background is getting the least permission to give encouragement so that in adulthood this person is the least likely to give positive strokes to others.
2. The parents tell the child that giving positive strokes is the good and right thing to do. This is a mild permission so it might occur sometimes when the person grows into an adult.
3. The child directly observes mother giving encouragement to others. This is a strong permission and the person is likely to do similar behaviour when they grow up.

When humans observe others doing something that is an instant permission to do so oneself
4. The mother directly gives the child encouragement. This is the strongest type of permission as the behaviour of giving encouragement is brought directly into the relationship between the mother and child. This is the strongest type of permission that a parent can give to a child and it is quite likely that as an adult this person in some way will do the same behaviour.
So if a parent is wanting a child to exhibit certain behaviours in adulthood, the more they give the stronger types of permissions the more it is likely to rub off on the child. Of course the same applies for feelings an attitudes as well. For instance racist attitudes and emotions such as depression or anxiety can be giving with varying degrees of permission.
Also the same applies with drug use. The parent who says to a child “Don’t take drugs” is giving a level 2 permission. If the child then sees first hand the parents drinking alcohol and taking tranquillisers then they are giving a level 3 permission to take drugs.
When I worked in a prison I was always in two minds about children visiting their fathers’ in prison. Such visits were great for the inmates psychological state and of course allowed the father and child to have an ongoing relationship whilst he was incarcerated. The problem is that it also normalised prison in the child’s mind and gave a level 3 and 4 type permission about going to prison.

This mother is giving a strong permission for her children to grow up and enjoy life.
Then there is the contentious area of hitting.
1. The child hears and sees nothing about one person hitting another. No permission to hit is being given.
2. The father advises his son that hitting people on the sporting field is OK and that one has to stand up for himself in the playground and punch others at times. A mild level of permission is being given.
3. The child sees father getting involved in physical fights with others. The child sees father hit mother. A strong permission to hit.
4. The child is hit directly by mother or father. The strongest permission to hit is given as it is directly in the relational of the child with the parent.
Please note that I have said here that the child is being given permission to hit. I have not said the child is being given permission to hit others. The person who was hit many times by their parents is probably less likely to hit others than those who were not, because being hit usually lowers the self esteem as raises the self contempt.
But hitting is in the psyche of the person. They will however tend to display that permission to hit in one of two ways. The first is that there will tend to be a pattern where they get involved in relationships with others who do hit. The girl who was physically abused by father, will marry a man who does the same. The woman whose parents never mentioned or showed hitting is far less likely to marry such a man as she has much less permission to do so.
She may not even be hit herself. I recall a client who was a small, timid and quiet type of woman. She was hit many times by mother throughout childhood. When she reached adolescence she became a skin head and reported seeing many quite severe beatings by others in the gang. She was never actually hit herself but she got herself involved in a violent subculture where there was a lot of hitting. Of course she did, because she had been given the strongest permission with regards to hitting.

The other thing that a person with a strong permission to hit can do is actually hit out, but they don’t hit others they hit them self. If they have a low self image then they are more likely to do this than hit others. The hitting can take the form of actually physical self harming, or more commonly such people have a very large and active internal critic sitting in the back of their head. At the slightest transgression the internal critic will launch into an angry tirade at the individual and verbally hit self in the most viscous of ways.
Most parents would wish that the levels of permission giving were in fact the opposite way around so that, “Do as I say, not as I do” was the rule of law in child development. Alas it is not. One of the most sobering things for a parent to do is to eaves drop on the children when they are playing with friends in the backyard. It can be an eye opener indeed!!

This post will be followed by another one on the paradoxical nature of change that came up in the Erskine workshop a few weeks ago.
Graffiti
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Interesting post, Tony.
Posted by: Hullaballoo | Thursday, 08 May 2008
Glad you liked it Hullaballmeister,
The graffitimeister
Posted by: Tony | Thursday, 08 May 2008
Hi Tony,
I was thinking of the many variables that come into play, like peer pressure and seeing what others do in the playground or sport field, media and maybe the child's own nature. Isn't there permissions in there that don't necessarily have to come from the Parent?
Say the child has a meek mild father but some other person in the child's life becomes a role model - won't he take the permission from them, rather than the father?
It is interesting and bought up questions for me about other influences besides the parents. Especially a child who is easily influenced by others.
KazzaB
Posted by: KazzaB | Friday, 09 May 2008
Hello KazzaB,
You must be getting close to being a fully qualified counsellor by now?
You brought up a point that I was actually meant to put in the post but forgot, so I might go back and edit it.
Yes, if you see anyone do something then that automatically gives you the observer some level of permission to do it. That is one reason why I think people have such strong reactions to suicide or a person who attempts suicide. it is permission giving to the observer and that scares them.
However the more emotionally important the person you observe is to you then the stronger the permission is. So if a boy observes father smoking cigarettes then that is a stronger permission than the boy observing the man down the street smoking.
Tony
Posted by: Tony | Friday, 09 May 2008
I wish I was close to being fully qualified Tony!! LOL I have another year after this one and possibly more because I haven't been doing all the units. Next year I get to go out on placement and start working on real people. By that I mean as opposed to role-plays with my classmates.
There is still a few challenges to come, like next semester we have to do an hours presentation in front of our group. I'm doing mine on Counselling the person with Chronic Pain. I actually thought of doing it on the use of humour in counselling but wasn't sure how much information I could find on it. What do you think? Is there much information out there on the use of humour? I think you did a blog not long ago on it, didn't you?
Cheers..........KazzaB
BTW I have a new blog - http://kazzab-lifenliving.blogspot.com/
Posted by: KazzaB | Friday, 09 May 2008
I tell you what KazzaB,
For your presentation on humor in counselling, how about I write it for you?
Cheers
Tony
Posted by: Tony | Friday, 09 May 2008
KazzaB,
I like your new blog and I added it to my 'Blogs I like list'.
I also put April in there
Tony
Posted by: Tony | Friday, 09 May 2008
I love the offer Tony but think I better write it myself somehow. LOL I'm looking forward to it in a way although when it comes closer to the time to present I may not be quite as enthusiastic!! Is there much information out there on humour in counselling or do you think it is still one of those things that isn't really discussed much? I have looked for some journals and so far haven't seen much. Maybe I'm putting the wrong search terms in though.
KazzaB
Posted by: KazzaB | Friday, 09 May 2008
I saw on the news recently some prominent psychologists becoming involved with Laugh Therapy. I know that is different to using humour in conventional therapy settings however these laughing therapy groups are achieving a degree of popularity in the eastern states. They look like they are having fun by doing all strange kinds of silly free child things one would expect of a six year old. Perhaps its a new kind of regression even if there might be a touch of faking it to begin with.
k
Posted by: kenoath | Friday, 09 May 2008
Laugh therapy is increasing in popularity Kenoath, which is why I was thinking of the benefits in a counselling session. While counselling is serious for the majority of the time, humour can really lift a person out of the mindset of being stuck in an issue. It brings people out of themselves and provides some relief. A lot of the group have chosen very heavy subjects for their presentations, which was why I thought of doing something lighter.
Cheers...........KazzaB
Posted by: KazzaB | Friday, 09 May 2008
Well I tell you what KazzaB,
I wont write your presentation for you.
What I will do is write lots of blog posts on humor in the psychotherapeutic process. And then you can ask questions in the comments section of those posts and I will write more blog posts on those questions that you ask.
How about that?
Tony
Posted by: Tony | Friday, 09 May 2008
Sounds really good to me Tony. I haven't totally decided to change over to humour in the counselling process yet but it is still in my mind. A bit of relief from all the other heavy subjects we were given as choices for our presentations.
Have a good Friday night.
Cheers............KazzaB
Posted by: KazzaB | Friday, 09 May 2008
KazzaB,
I think your idea is fantastic and you should go for it. With that subject matter you could devise a great creative opening too to gra their attention.
Graffiti,
Humour is the best medicine eh? Cant wait to read your posts on humour.
Posted by: Kahless | Friday, 09 May 2008
I agree, Kahless. I reckon it would be a great topic. go for it KazzaB :-)
Posted by: Madeleine | Friday, 09 May 2008
Hi Kahless and Madeleine,
Only problem is I have to do a 3000 - 5000 word essay as well and it's finding the information out there to do that. I had a look on our library portal for journals and there isn't much that I can see out there on the use of humour. If I can find a bit more then I think it would be good too. At least a bit of relief from the heavy topics we have for the other weeks. LOL
KazzaB
Posted by: KazzaB | Friday, 09 May 2008
I wonder if there is anything out there about it. I suspect there is, but not specific journal articles, but bits of them. Maybe look at laughter therapy and use references from that??
Posted by: Madeleine | Friday, 09 May 2008
KazzaB,
That is a lot of words.
So to my mind it would depend on what is meant by the topic
"Humor in the counselling process".
For instance could you discuss the physiology of it?
Laughing releases various hormones in the brain which are good for physical and psychological health.
Freud made some interesting comments on humour.
So could you include this type of stuff?
Tony
Posted by: Tony | Friday, 09 May 2008
I probably could Tony. It sounds like it would be the way to go. Madeleine found me a couple which I'll have a look at. But because there wouldn't be specific journals on it, I'd need to work around it, which is what your idea is about. At least I have until next semester. I want to get the essay done so I can concentrate on the presentation. Thanks for the suggestions.
KazzaB
Posted by: KazzaB | Friday, 09 May 2008


