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Saturday, 17 May 2008
Binge drinking - Part 4
Kahless apparently was in good spirits last night enjoying a Bacardi or two.
But as the quotes below show if she drank 4 or more nips of Bacardi then according to her government she is drinking at dangerous levels.
The last quote is interesting and perhaps the Swedish government is the only one that is being a little bit realistic about what the term “Binge drinking” means and is not treating its constituents like they are morons as the Australian, UK & US governments do.
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A standard drink is defined as one that contains 10 grams of pure alcohol:
• One can (375mL) low-alcohol beer.
• One pot (285mL) regular beer.
• Three-quarters of a stubby (375mL) of regular beer.
• One glass of mixed drink (30mL spirits + mixer).
• One nip (30mL) of spirit or liqueur.
• 100mL (small glass) table wine.
• Three-quarters of a bottle (330mL) of alcoholic soda.
There is no internationally agreed definition of binge drinking, but in the UK, drinking surveys normally define binge drinkers as men consuming at least eight, and women at least six standard units of alcohol in a single day, that is, double the maximum recommended ‘safe limit’ for men and women respectively.
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One of the commonly used thresholds for binge drinking is five or more drinks for men and four or more for women per occasion. This is often reduced to ‘five or more drinks’, regardless of gender and obtains in many international reports and studies.
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Recommended limits for Guys
• No more than four standard drinks a day on average, with an occasional maximum of six standard drinks.
• One or two alcohol-free days a week.
Recommended limits for Girls
• No more than two standard drinks a day on average, with an occasional maximum of four standard drinks.
• One or two alcohol-free days a week
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The epidemiological research literature shows a broad range of definitions of binge drinking.
4+ drinks per occasion for women / 5+ drinks per occasion for men (US)
5+ drinks per occasion on at least one in last 30 days (US)
Blood alcohol concentration raised to 0.08g/ml or above (US/ NIAAA)
1/2 bottle of spirits or 2 bottles of wine on the same occasion (Sweden)
6+ bottles of beer per session (Finland)
8 drinks within the same day (Canada)
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Kenoath makes a very good point in his comment in part 3 of the binge drinking saga. He states:
“Seeing as though the health dept have hijacked the word "binge" for their purposes it makes sense to coin another phrase that suits.
Wasted Drinking perhaps? Why don't we all go and get Wasted tonight? Wasted Drinking sounds good. I can just imagine the headlines now. "Teenagers run amok and get wasted on several jugs of beer." "Wasted Drinking is becoming a problem in our society".
(End quote)
I agree with him that with these new definitions of the term “Binge drinking” it has now become a meaningless term. It is a bit like the term ADD. That used to be a realistic diagnostic psychological state. These days any unruly child is diagnosed as ADD and probably put on dexamphetamines. So what the term ADD originally meant was lost long ago.
So Kenoath’s suggestion of seeking a new term to mean what real binge drinking once was seems like a fruitful exercise. “Wasted” seems good. Lets see what Michael Hutchence has to say about it
Although Micheal did have excesses in other areas. Him and little demur Kylie Minogue used to really push the envelope it seems, with somewhat unfortunate consequences in the end!!
Graffiti
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Ha! I can say for a fact I've never been "elegantly" wasted in my life. And any of those guidelines for "binge" drinking would have constituted a tame day for me. A binge for me would have been one of those binges every hour. But I guess that's how I got into recovery, now, isn't it?
And I love the differences (from American English) in the names for drinks/drink containers. I think a "pot" of beer is what we would refer to as a pitcher. I have no idea what a stubby is. And a nip, I believe, is a shot.
Posted by: Annabel | Saturday, 17 May 2008
*Giggles* The word 'pot' is quite ambiguous isn't it?
Tony!
I almost missed the opportunity to wish you and everyone who will be involved - Happy Training Day Workshop!! Oh my goodness - have some fun learning! Can't wait to hear or see a bit about it here - well, if that's what is going to happen.
I'm selling something for the first time ever on E-bay tonight (Saturday) and i'm so excited. Its also to distract me from the erky feelings i get every time i think about the last assessment that occured on Thursday. Erk erk.
I went to an auction last year sometime and bought a heap of little things by accident for $15 and i hope to make a little money on my 'oops'. Hope i make more than $15. If not... well, it was a cheap heap of fun. I'm all scared and nervous because i tend to say things like - "ohh... you can have it... no, no, i'd like you to have it if it brings you pleasure."
Why does it feel bad to take money? I always feel guilty. There have been times that i've tried to do the 'selling' thing and it always ends up costing me money. So annoying!
Ohh, yeah! I'm here to wish you well for tomorrow. I really hope it goes well and mostly... I hope is fun!
Cheers Mr Graffiti Sir... roses
Posted by: roses | Saturday, 17 May 2008
Hello Roses,
I will comment on the training day if there is something to comment on. It will be fun as we always manage to have many good laughs, perhaps because humor is useful in the psychotherapeutic process!
Just ask KazzaB, she knows!
Tony
Posted by: Tony | Saturday, 17 May 2008
Tony,
Just don't wet yourself in the process of total belly laughter, ok?
Kazza - out with it then. Is laughter truly the best medicine? (no references or bibliography needed ok?)
Cheers... roses
Posted by: roses | Saturday, 17 May 2008
I love the picure of that sign. Especially the part that addresses the dogs!
Posted by: Lynn | Saturday, 17 May 2008
OK Roses,
I will remember your wise counsel.
Tony
Posted by: Tony | Saturday, 17 May 2008
Hi Lynn,
Wouldn't it be great if all levels of government could have some sense of humor like that.
Hope your day is going well and you snoozed well last nite
Tony
Posted by: Tony | Saturday, 17 May 2008
Enjoy your workshop tomorrow Tony. Only 0 days 13 hours 822 minutes 49347 seconds and counting down.
Posted by: Madeleine | Saturday, 17 May 2008
So I have had my binge for the week. My, my, my head is heavy this morning. Well actually I have just got up and its afternoon.
I am left wondering what I wrote in my binge-ness.
I guess who cares.
Toodle-do my friends. Off to get my hair cut.
Hope you have a fab workshop Tony.
Posted by: Kahless | Saturday, 17 May 2008
Binge drinking is a huge issue in Scotland.
Luckily for my body, I am a rubbish 'wasted' drinker and quickly feel headachy or sicky.
Posted by: Hullaballoo | Sunday, 18 May 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n7p9VUlr-k
The above link gives my definition of binge/wasted drinking...
(Dont worry nothing lude)
Posted by: Nadia | Monday, 19 May 2008
Hope the new hairdo is what you wanted Kahless.
Tony
Posted by: Tony | Monday, 19 May 2008
There is somewhat of an unkind joke that is sometimes stated by Australian men Hullaballoo,
What is the definition of the perfect woman?
A cheap drunk.
Hope you don't take offence
Tony
Posted by: Tony | Monday, 19 May 2008
Hello Nadia,
It was an interesting video
Like the foot prints on your blog!
Graffiti
Posted by: Graffiti | Monday, 19 May 2008
Tony & Hullaballoo,
No offence. I think most women wish they were cheap drunks. It wouldn't cost much at all then.
roses
Posted by: roses | Monday, 19 May 2008
Well men do Roses
Tony
Posted by: Tony | Monday, 19 May 2008
Well men can Tony.
roses
Posted by: roses | Monday, 19 May 2008
The hairdo is ok, Tony. I got sent out of the house on saturday and knew I darent come back without a haircut!
Guess it looks smart now.
Posted by: Kahless | Tuesday, 20 May 2008
Kahless,
You have intelligent hair? Can I get your hair to do my essay exam in June... Please?
Anyway Kahless, you've been saying that you need a hair cut for a bit now. Well done!
roses
Posted by: roses | Tuesday, 20 May 2008
UNITED take me home....
to the place that I have known...
to OLD TRAFFORD
to UNITED
take me home....
WE WON!!!!!!
[from Russia with Love....]
Roses; i have no nails left....
My team won...
We are in the promised land...
We Won the cup
We won the cup
Man United
Man United
We won the cup
.....
FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chelsea (our opponents) should be saluted.
There was a very very small margin in it !!!
WE WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bring it on..........
Yowl......
I love you all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I kiss you!!!!!!!
NO....
I snog you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:-)
Posted by: Kahless | Thursday, 22 May 2008
We ARE the CHAMPIONs
...
my friends
We ARE the CHAMPIONs
....
my friends
Cos We ARE the CHAMPIONs
....
We ARE the CHAMPIONs
We ARE the CHAMPIONs
:-)
COS
Posted by: Kahless | Thursday, 22 May 2008
champione
champione
ole ole ole
champione
champione
ole ole ole
champione
champione
ole ole ole
my arms are wide
hug hug hug
.....
brilliant
brilliant
brilliant
we are the champions...
Posted by: Kahless | Thursday, 22 May 2008
we won it 3 times.,....
we won it 3 times.,....
without [******* anyone]
we won it 3 times.,....
Man United
Man United
ole ole ole
Man United
Man United
ole ole ole
i cant tell u what it is like.......................................
ole ole ole.....
:-)
We have won the BIGGEST prize in club footbal....l
VIVA Ronaldo
VIVA Ronaldo
running down the wing
HEAR united sing
VIVA Ronaldo
yowl...
Have a big big big big big HUG from me....
I LOVE you.....,
viva Ronaldo .....
Posted by: Kahless | Thursday, 22 May 2008
Kahless, are you trying to tell us something?? Did your team win yesterday or something? Maybe you need to be a bit clearer??
Yay for Kahless.
Posted by: Madeleine | Thursday, 22 May 2008
it was just 10 minutes ago Madeleine that Man United won.
k
Posted by: kenoath | Thursday, 22 May 2008
*Giggles* Next time get some pop corn. Much tastier than nails! So SO happy for you and the crew. The best team on the day! Good on 'em!
I'll bet you sleep like a log. Happy dreams!
roses
Ps, yeah Madeleine - Kahless seems a tad churpy this day.
Posted by: roses | Thursday, 22 May 2008
shows how much I know, Kenoath, doesn't it. One of those games where Aussies sit up all night to watch??
Posted by: Madeleine | Thursday, 22 May 2008
Wow; I am just seeing what I wrote in blogland last night!!! I did even realise I had posted on my lite blog last night until I had a comment come through on email today!!
Yes; my team is the best club in Europe - that's official!
And I think my comments illustrate perfectly the title of this post!!!
Boy I have the hangover from hell today folks. I haven't thrown up for years through drink but last night I did. Yuck.
Hope you enjoyed watching the game Ken.
Posted by: kahless | Thursday, 22 May 2008
It's on both Random Kahless and Lite Kahless LOL. You were so totally pumped last night.
Posted by: Madeleine | Thursday, 22 May 2008
I am never drinking ever again
Lol
Posted by: kahless | Thursday, 22 May 2008
Yah right !!!!
Tell me that the next time there's a big match :-)
Posted by: Madeleine | Thursday, 22 May 2008
Grrrrr, Bark, Woof Woof, good binge drinking Man-United humans.
kenoath
Posted by: kenoath | Thursday, 22 May 2008
Aww Kahless, get well soon
roses
Posted by: roses | Friday, 23 May 2008
So Tony...
The training day must have been great! It's taken you a whole week to get over it.
Cheers... roses
Posted by: roses | Friday, 23 May 2008
Actually Madeleine I have been invited to a party next month with a free bar all night; so maybe, we'll see.
((((((Ken))))))
Roses, I am ok now. Thanks. Maybe Tony has a hangover from his workshop?
Tony, hope you are good. We have another bank holiday this weekend... Yipee!!
Posted by: kahless | Friday, 23 May 2008
At least the party gives you time to recuperate from this one, Kahless :-).
Posted by: Madeleine | Friday, 23 May 2008
Hi Kahless,
What is it with the UK and bank holidays?
Did you know that we have a monday public holiday once a year here in Australia and it is for the Queen's birthday!!
Tony
Posted by: Tony | Friday, 23 May 2008
We don't get a day off for the Queens birthday. I think we should have one too!!!!
We don't get enough freebie holidays!
I think I will start a petition on the downing street website.
Posted by: kahless | Friday, 23 May 2008