Tony White

"I'm not a pheasant plucker, i'm a pheasant plucker's son
I'm only plucking pheasants till the pheasant plucker comes."

I like this post... but it does sound a bit like a riddle or tongue twister.

I think you have stated something that may not be so obvious but may need to be obvious-ated. Now that you've obvious-ated it i think it makes sense.

Posted by: roses | Saturday, 02 May 2009

I noticed that you ascribed creativity as a femine quality. Politics and commerce need more of that today than in any other recent time. I think that may explain some things. As far as the ruthlessness factor in business goes, I have labooured under that fallacy before, but I was on the wrong track with that thinking. I call it a fallacy because my greatest successes in selling real estate (which was my main career) did not come from ruthlessness. They came from caring for the financial needs and goals of my clients as I would care for my own financial concerns. These were my most fabulous successes in business. And lucky for those clients, one of my main worries for them was making sure they were not set up with a bad loan. I was a success because I had compassion for them and treated them the way I would hope to be treated by someone more knowledgeable than I if I were outside my own area of expertise. In these times especially, I think of some of them. I imagine them in their well-bought homes, safe from the storm. It makes me happy for their relative safety. I was successful with them and there was no ruthlessness. There was true caring, stark honesty, patience, and diligence... all in the strange and unlikely place where caution and creativity meet. I wish I could replicate that mix in some other areas of my life. Maybe someday.

Interesting post, Tony.

xoxoxoxoxo

Posted by: Ethereal Highway | Saturday, 02 May 2009

Great post Tony. Makes sense to me. Work have put me on a course in September which discusses this very thing. You see they want to encourage more women in senior positions. Thanks for doing my pre-work for me!! ;-)

I like the phrase I heard David Beckham once say...

"The harder I train, the luckier I am"

I think men, in general, will put in longer hours which is a success factor. I would definately go further if I worked longer hours.

But life is choices. And I dont want long hours at work.

I think Amy is fab too.

Posted by: Kahless | Sunday, 03 May 2009

Hey Tony,
Want to read my paper I just finished? It's about when in order to conform to gender stereotypes people to express diffrent emotions from what they actually feel.
This post makes me think of it, also it's already on my mind from recently spending a bunch of time writing it. So it probably only takes a weak connection to think of it:P

Posted by: Lee | Sunday, 03 May 2009

Tony,
I'll email it to you(and to anyone else here who might be interested). I might post some in my blog. After I get the grade back though. Sometimes professors google pieces of papers to make sure they weren't plagiarized and I'd rather not have my blog pop up on a search result:P

Posted by: Lee | Sunday, 03 May 2009

Tony,

Yea you'd think so, but apparently it's fairly common practice.

Wait, is that a diffrent blog? I'm confused. I thought this was your graffiti blog.

Did you know that it looks like we're on close to exactly opposite sleeping schedules? You respond to comments when I'm about to go to bed (I assume it's morning there now) and other times right when I've just woken up (nightime for you)
You wished me a happy Sunday, I've got 2 more hours till Sunday starts:)

Posted by: Lee | Sunday, 03 May 2009

Er, Yeah. Who's amy? I see her picture up there but i don't know if i know her. Am i supposed to know who she is?

I was also wondering... did you get your chores in the yard done today? I hope so.

Have a nice sunday night. Well, *shrugs* because i think that would be nice.

Posted by: roses | Sunday, 03 May 2009

I'm practicing... telekinesis. Its fun.

I don't know Amy, i also don't know if i like her music either. But when i'm listening next to something i like (music) i'll remember to listen to who it was - catch their name.

I'm glad you got some stuff done today. I'm into a collection of fantasy books at the moment. Gosh it's fun!

Happy Sunday night sleep and i hope you have lovely dreams.

Posted by: roses | Sunday, 03 May 2009

Tony,
the course isnt until September. I will let you know how it goes. I was put on it, not sure it would be by first choice. But it should be interesting to see what other womens views are as to why we are less represented at board level.

Roses,

Amy Winehouse. A UK singer. Her voice is fantastic. A talented individual. Youtube, "Back to Black" - that is one of her songs.

Posted by: Kahless | Monday, 04 May 2009

Graffit,

your picture with the comment
"Does the difference in physical strength between men and women have an impact on the psychological dynamics of their relationships?"

do you ever think how you would react if someone put a gun to your head?

Posted by: Kahless | Monday, 04 May 2009

Hi Graffiti.

Mmmm. You comment went a little over my head.
**zoom**

I daydream death most days actually. Not necessarily my own. My own 33% of the time and others, in fact others quite a bit (66%.)

Does that make me odd?

I thought it somewhat a common occurrence.

Posted by: Kahless | Monday, 04 May 2009

Ok.

This week I had MRs K on a train that blew up with a terrorist bomb! I was at the train station waiting for her train to come in, which never did (cos it was blown up.)

Same scenario, on another day this week, I was at work then someone told me about the bomb and called me out of a meeting.
I am not sure what I would draw but I will try tomorrow!

Posted by: Kahless | Monday, 04 May 2009

Out of interest, do you remember the promise you once asked me to make?

I say because that is a dilemma I have in my day-dreaming?

Posted by: Kahless | Monday, 04 May 2009

In some ways I am glad Tony, cos it was a commitment I regret making.

In a lot of other ways it makes me feel sad.

I am off to bed now. Goodnight. I hope you have a good week.

xx.

Posted by: Kahless | Monday, 04 May 2009

Oh, well that makes Amy's life interesting i guess. Thank you for explaining that.

Did you throw away my comment and then answer it anyway? Cheeky!

I still think her music is 'retro' type feel - deliberately arranged that way of course - and she reminds me of the theme songs of 'James Bond' movies.

I hope she 'Amy' doesn't get too dizzy and fall off.

Posted by: roses | Monday, 04 May 2009

I was very very drunk last night!!!
Just as well today was a holiday.

I hate to think what comments I littered blogland with!

Posted by: Kahless | Tuesday, 05 May 2009

I remember the promise, Kahless. You and I made the same one, each to the other. You know damn well there is A LOT of shit I don't remember, but I remember THAT. I will hold my end and I am holding you to yours as well. Sometimes I'm a shit and lazy friend with my brain out to lunch - but *I'm still here*. I still care. Promise me again, Kahless. Just tell me you promise and I will do the same (with one tiny exclusion which we can talk about if you like).

Posted by: Lynn | Tuesday, 05 May 2009

It's in your comments somewhere, Tony. I don't remember where or when, but I'm pretty sure it's in here somewhere. Off to bed now. Maybe we can talk about it later if Kahless wants to.

xoxoxoxoxoxo

Posted by: Lynn | Tuesday, 05 May 2009

Well I am not sure how to respond really. I certainly wasn't going to backtrack on a conversation of a year or so ago. Not that it is any big shakes. I have already made a complete twat of myself once today by being somewhat badly behaved in a meeting.

But then again, my footie team is in the final of the European Cup, we are going (to Rome), so what else is there to life eh?

Basically Tony you asked me to promise to email you in the event of Mrs K's death. Not something I suggested. I had wondered recently whether it would be an odd thing to do and you would think "what the fuck?". My hunches are mostly correct. Now I know it would be something completely odd to email a stranger.

And this is slightly different to our deal Lynn. Which stands. (Minor contractual exclusions applying.)

Posted by: Kahless | Wednesday, 06 May 2009

I haven't had a chance to read through all the comments here, so I'm not sure if I'm repeating anything, but...I disagree with the entire basis of this post, Tony :)

I won't deny there are indeed some biological differences, generally speaking, between males and females. However, I think the vast majority of our perceived differences-- including all those you listed here-- are socialized. From birth we begin learning that certain traits apply to males, others to females. When we stray too far from these false norms, we're betraying nature (and there are nothing but negative connotations to that!) I challenge everyone, myself included, to work on being aware of the traits and abilities we assign to each sex on a daily basis, and really think about where those ideas are coming from, and whether they're valid.

I'll leave you with a funny/scary list that illustrates this point.

HOW TO TELL A BUSINESSMAN FROM A BUSINESSWOMAN:

A businessman is aggressive; a businesswoman is pushy.
A businessman is good on details; she’s picky.
He loses his temper because he’s so involved in his job; she’s bitchy.
When he’s depressed (or hungover), everyone tiptoes past his office; she’s moody, so it must be her time of the month.
He follows through; she doesn’t know when to quit.
He’s confident; she’s conceited.
He stands firm; she’s impossible to deal with.
He is firm; she’s hard.
He’s a man of the world; she’s been around.
He drinks because of the excessive job pressure; she’s a lush.
He isn’t afraid to say what he thinks; she’s mouthy.
He exercises authority diligently; she’s power mad.
He’s close-mouthed; she’s secretive.
He climbed the ladder of success; she slept her way to the top.
He’s a stern taskmaster; she’s hard to work for.
He’s witty; she’s sarcastic.

Posted by: annabel | Thursday, 07 May 2009

I like the way you can explain the unexplainable so well Tony. Recently I considered Jungs "Pleroma" - he sort of gives a warning about such a thinking adventure, however he also stresses that humans need to differentiate themselves instead of winding up disintegrated as nothingness of the Pleroma. Thantos kind of thing I imagine.

kenoath aka Kingsley

Posted by: kenoath | Thursday, 07 May 2009

I'm glad our deal stands, {{{{{Kahless}}}}}.

Posted by: Lynn | Thursday, 07 May 2009

My list was not meant as an attack on men. I think gender assumptions hurt men just as much as they do women. My challenge is not to look at all the ways men oppress women, rather to look at all the ways society's gender structure oppresses everyone.

Humans with vaginas are domestic, passive, sensitive, etc. (your terms,) or else they're not "doing" female right. Humans with penises are vulgar, aggressive, lacking insight, etc., or they're not not proper men. Those aren't great options.

We have a long way to go before women have the same power, privilege, and prestige as men do. On the other hand, the fallout from second-wave feminism has left men with two choices, with relation to women: they can be the oppressor, or the doormat. The women's liberation movement (necessarily) tore traditional gender roles apart, but now we need something to build them back up.

OK, that's enough feminist rambling from me. I guess we'll agree to disagree on the innateness of gender identity.

Posted by: annabel | Friday, 08 May 2009

politics and commerce were created by men, in accordance with archaic gender roles. that's why they work that way.

thank you for what i THINK was a compliment at the end :)

Posted by: annabel | Saturday, 09 May 2009