Wednesday, 27 May 2009

Adversarial therapies

 

I have always found it an interesting distinction between adversarial psychotherapies and the non-adversarial ones. The different types of therapies of course have different ways of conceptualising what emotional problems are and thus have alternative therapies to remedy those problems. 

 

For instance take the four main forms of Transactional Analysis listed below and the which part of the personality (ego state) that they tend to focus on.

 

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Adversarial therapies have been around since time began such as with Freud and psychoanalysis. He posited that the conscious and unconscious were adversaries. That these two aspects of the personality were combative. The unconscious was constantly trying to force itself into the conscious and the conscious was trying to avoid that happening. 

 

He even came up with the idea of the defence mechanisms. These allowed the conscious to be defended against the unwanted unconscious material. Of course one only needs a defence if one detects some kind of attack. Clearly a very adversarial explanation of personality where we have one part of the personality continually putting up defences against perceived attacks by another part of the personality. There is no concept of harmonious coexistence in such a theory.

 

In Transactional Analysis theory this view is typified by the Redecision school of therapy. They say one can explain human emotional problems by the three degrees or types of impasses a shown below:

 

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Type 1 - the P2 and C2 ego states are in conflict

Type 2 - the P1 and C1 ego states are in conflict

Type 3 - the P0 and C0 ego states are in conflict

In each the Parent is seen as inhibiting or chastising the Child and the Child is seen as fighting back against that - a combative view I think one could say.

The impasses are explained as:

 

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Therapy techniques like two chair are often used in these theories of therapy and are directly conflictual in nature. One pits the potency of the inhibiting Parent ego state against the needs and wants of the Child ego state. The goal of the therapist is to facilitate the Child overcoming the Parent and thus psychological growth is afforded. A directly combative approach is suggested by the therapist to the client.

 

One problem I have with with these theories and thus therapies is they say that such conflict is normal and is indeed deeply embedded in our psyche and personalities. As such conflict is inevitable, thus one has a winner and a loser context. There is no win-win dynamic in such therapies. The therapist is directly stating to the client that conflict and a combative approach to problem solving is OK and really the way to deal with such situations. Direct permission to seek a win-lose situation rather than win-win is given to the client through the therapeutic relationship and really the entire structure of the therapy.

 

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Alternate to these are the non conflictual theories and therapies. A good example of this is client centred therapy as proposed by Carl Rogers. He suggests that if a client is placed in a unconditional positive environment in the therapy setting then that person will slowly develop due to their inherent tendency to grow towards health. It lacks any combative component. The good part about this is that it also says to the client that you are OK as you are. In the conflictual therapies the therapist is saying to the client that one part of them is not OK. Indeed the client’s Child ego state may hear being told that part of them self is bad.

 

Also what are now called the positive psychology approaches tend to be of this vein, like Abraham Maslow and many of the Life coaching approaches. The gaol is not to change things in the client but to take their positives and work with encouraging those. Again there is much less focus on the negatives or pathology in the client. So in the very nature of the therapeutic relationship the client is getting the message that they are OK.

 

In more recent times some Relational Transactional Analysis approaches are also non combative in nature. Some may even be regarded as completely pacifist in their view. The act of even diagnosing a client is considered insulting the client or shaming them. Whilst I don’t fully agree with this I do understand what they are saying and I do see its place with certain clients as is described below.

 

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Some clients have a large and very vitriolic internal critic or Critical Parent ego state sitting in the back of their heads. Some times these people can use therapy to further their pathology  by giving the internal critic a good work out every session. By the very act of coming to counselling and identifying their script messages, or the games they play, or their racket feelings they are thus getting confirmation from the therapist that there is some thing wrong or bad about them. The counselling is simply used to provide further evidence for the Critical Parent with which to flagellate the Child within.

 

 

However back to the very non adversarial approaches where one is reluctant to even diagnose a problem. To do so as I said before is seen to insult the client and they would see this as interfering in the relational or the relationship between the client and therapist. They would then argue quite rightly that it is the therapeutic relationship that is usually seen as the thing that has the most curative powers and thus one wants to avoid disrupting it as much as one can. Weather making some kind of diagnosis does insult the client and thus disrupt the relational is a matter of debate but one does want to avoid disrupting the relational.

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A further interesting point is that these approaches can not really be called psychotherapies. They cannot actually be a therapy. As soon as one engages in some kind of therapy then that automatically implies that there is some difficulty or problem that requires remediation. If there wasn’t then there would be no need for any therapy in the first place.

 

This leaves one a quite an interesting juncture. Two people can get together and investigate the relational contact between them where there is no therapeutic goal. It is simply a matter of investigating and understanding the relationship. So it is not therapy and it is not ‘just’ a relationship. A new entity or one could even say a new organism has been created. I am still looking for someone to have such relational contact with.

 

 

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Comments

Very interesting. I always tended toward the positive psychology types - why scratch too much at what's fucked up and probably will never change? Better to bring out and encourage and reward the good. As my mom says, "Over time, you do the things the person you want to be would do, and slowly, you become that person."

Posted by: myalterego | Thursday, 28 May 2009

Hello Sara,
that sounds like a great permission your mom gave you.

Whilst I have commented on the advantages of non adversarial approaches I use adversarial approaches every day I work. For example I use two chair a lot.

Maybe I should make an edit on some of the downside to the non adversarial approaches to this post.

Anyway, good to hear from you again.

Also times they are a changin' and I am going to have to leave blog spirit soon

Graffiti

Posted by: Tony | Thursday, 28 May 2009

I like Carl Rogers, despite only knowing his very basic ideas. I smile when I see his name, because he just seems so warm and fuzzy. Someone should make a Carl Rogers teddy bear.

Posted by: Lee | Thursday, 28 May 2009

Interesting difference of therapies here Tony.

When the longer term client verbalises or demonstrates a free child kind of acknowledgement of his most difficult underlying feeling in the relational, its ok to reflect that in some way I think. Some clients miss these reflective moments on their own. Relational is much to about digesting and processing in the relational and as long as some of that is indeed occuring. How does one know for sure?

If the difficult feeling is scare and he displays that via stories and experiences then I agree that at some point reflecting his expression will be confrontational. I think a therapist knows when to give latitude in the relational and when good opportunities arise for adversarial therapy. The confrontation can be around "feeling scared is ok isnt it?" "I sensed your reaction ..."

I think there is a point where re traumatising clients can be in the therapists head however its still useful to know where that point lays for the client. Perhaps the therapist also has needs in therapy? Ie to satisfy themselves that they are doing something effective?

kenoath

Posted by: kenoath | Thursday, 28 May 2009

I don't get it. Why don't you have someone to practice that kind of relationship with yet? If you want to so badly, then why don't you just do it?

I'm all excited for you for when that happens now. It sounds like a friendship. So nice...

Is blogspirit getting up your nose or something? I hope you're going to let us know where you're taking your blog.

Hope also that your Friday is a quicky and the weekend is a good one for you. Cheers...

Umm... are you doing your redecision therapy workshop on a Thursday? I hope it goes well.

Posted by: roses | Friday, 29 May 2009

That is a very good idea Lee,
Carl Rogers teddy bears

Tony

Posted by: Tony | Friday, 29 May 2009

I liked your comment about the retraumatization Kenoath.

I think one could say that all therapy retraumatizes the client. To go into a situation where you recall unpleasant events could be seen as retraumatizing. If you don't recount them then one is not retraumatized but one stays with their neurosis more. So I suppose it becomes the lesser of two evils

Graffiti

Posted by: Tony | Friday, 29 May 2009

No Roses,
I am doing my all day redecision workshop next friday.

yes it is Friday now here and so the weekend will come soon.

Have a good day

Tony

Posted by: Tony | Friday, 29 May 2009

Oh. Yeah. Friday. I counted today as well. Yes. Next Friday. I bet its going to be fun.

Have a good one too.

roses

Posted by: roses | Friday, 29 May 2009

Some questions...

1. You say "I am going to have to leave blog spirit soon"
a. why?
b. have you gone already?

2. You say "Two people can get together and investigate the relational contact between them where there is no therapeutic goal. It is simply a matter of investigating and understanding the relationship. So it is not therapy and it is not ‘just’ a relationship. A new entity or one could even say a new organism has been created. I am still looking for someone to have such relational contact with."

a. why are you looking?
b. I remember a long time ago you talked about being part of a group with members M1, M2 etc.. Wasnt that just about 'being' and seeing what happened. Did that not fulfill what you were looking for?
c. What happened to this group?

As always, just being a nosey posey.
K.

Posted by: Kahless | Tuesday, 02 June 2009

I'm going to miss you when you're gone. Take care of you...

Posted by: roses | Wednesday, 03 June 2009

Oh my goodness! Not even one day to go till your workshop!

Gosh i hope everyone has some fun!

Posted by: roses | Thursday, 04 June 2009

Hi Roses,

Yes I have to leave very soon for my Redecision workshop in Bunbury which is a 3 hour drive from where I live. Should be a good day.

I will respond to Kahless, Sara and Nick when I get back this afternoon.

Have a good day

Tony

Posted by: Tony | Friday, 05 June 2009

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